“Even then,” he said, “we wouldn’t consider her unethical or socially inferior. One could characterise her as careless, unlucky, frivolous or very much unable to tame her urges. One could argue that she’d be better off being free and living alone. In any case, if she didn’t have any intention of fooling anyone, her way of life wouldn’t be considered antisocial or immoral. Besides, look at all these young men and women who live alone and seemingly unmarried –and who have officially been
“Is there something that you do consider immoral? Are you familiar with the concept of immorality?”
“Of course! And whatever is truly immoral is exemplarily punished. In such instances we’re firm. But it’s just that they’re so rare. The people of today get a certain satisfaction from being ethical, without being forced to feel that way. Unlike you, who, if I remember correctly, had a saying that said “the forbidden fruit is always sweeter.”
“That’s easy for you to say,” I replied somewhat miffed, “since essentially nothing for you is forbidden.”
“You’re wrong there,” he responded quietly. “Our society also has certain moral restraints. If, say, when Juliet was living with Axel, she secretly met with another man, that would be considered immoral. But neither Juliet nor someone much more flighty than her would do something like that. All she would have to do is tell her partner. Why should she hide it? People tell each other how they feel and whatever the outcome—acceptance or separation—they have told the truth. In fact, most of the time, acts such as these are forgiven, especially if it’s an infatuation, a moment of passion or a loss of self-control. While, if they hide it, things become complicated and people are plagued by a guilty conscience, which in our times is very difficult to handle.”
I was wondering where he was going with this and very curious to find out.
“Never would a woman be with a man, or vice versa, out of self-interest, just to benefit from them later and not out of love or strong physical attraction,” Stefan said. “Dishonesty is inexcusable and unforgivable. What we want most is to have a calm heart and a calm mind, far from moral uncertainties like jealousy, suspicion or fear. On the other hand, our leaders have put up stricter ethical barriers for young people. Normally, until they become
I asked him at which stage of life a woman decides to become a mother.
“I couldn’t possibly answer that accurately. The same as in your time, sometimes sooner, sometimes later. It depends on their temperament and on luck… There are many factors involved. Our case with Hilda is among the most common. Most of the times it takes three to four trial partnerships, born either from the
He then spoke so derogatorily about our time and its “values”: adultery, lack of straightforwardness and loyalty, everyday dishonesty, fraud, prostitution, the exploitation of weakness and poverty, perversions, violence, crimes of “honour” and sick passions. I didn’t know where to hide. He even considered the wedding ceremonies of past times as indecent: the gathering of the people, the fun, the comments, the teasing and… well… what came after: the more intimate moments of the couple.